Saturday, December 11, 2010

RE: [menow] FW: Superb Medical Info. - Patient Education Institute !!

Dear Bharatji,
Not because u have said something for me but in general : appreciation, greatfulness, thanks giving, humbleness, finding meaningful things , undestanding in positive way essence of talk, lesson, mail, etc are greatest virtue but rearly possessed and expressed.
Criticism, thanklessness, anger,dissatisfaction,grudge,being bias,self praise, understanding wrongly, being mean etc etc are automatic, instant and can be seen on face, and person can without control shout, abuse , pull down, show down, be ungreatful, etc etc . And most people fall in this category.We have to unlearn all this and master ( that is achieving enlighenment )  self and understand and praise / be thankhul to others and be simple and humble. It seems you have to great extent achieved the same.
And honestly though criticism does not bother me much but appriciation does give me some sense of satisfaction/ joy. Your mail made me happy. May be in time to come I will be nutral to even praise / appreciation which will be true attainment.

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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:20:47 +0530
Subject: Re: [menow] FW: Superb Medical Info. - Patient Education Institute !!

Dear Alok,

Even at the cost of sounding repeatative, let me once again express my gratitude for your continous efforts to serve the society in general and aggrieved and afflicted ones in particular!!!

Congratulations and Best Wishes in your endeavour.


Recent Activity:


    My reply to Lalit Makan of congress (which has only gone for a vote bank be it issue of Minority or Rent act or ...)

    Kya tali ek haath se bajti hai?? Why not do simultaneosly study of other communities like parsies, Sikhs, jains, Jews, christians who are really in minority and most of these communities are less then 1 % of population. and why only of Muslims who are second largest majority in India.When they have been given opportunity to be President, Governor , Chiefministers. etc etc and still feel alinated then what shud jains,parises,Jews etc feel who have never been given such opportunity. It is importnat to discuss the such feeling with psychologists? They will have awnswer for same. Why Lalit and his folks say such thing is because of muslims vote bank.
    Muslims are backward because they produce more children then they can educate them/ make them self sufficient/ self dependant. Muslims are dreaded by Hindus because many of them remeber Moguls and their atrocities, demolisen by guns Budha statues even in 21 st century,and that they give maximum criminals. Have u / or Sunday Indian( Urdu) has done study of percentage of criminals from various communities,social workers in human / charitable activitis from various comm,jehadis from various comm vis a vis their population,most 1000 heinous crime by which comm, who are the biggest smuugglers, biggest, educationins, hospital owners, etc etc. This will give u better picture of who is up to what. Most minority comm r haeded by Muslims ( who r 2nd largest majority) and not others yes the corruption is highest and real benefit is not reaching desrving muslims and not even 1 % to other minorities.An RTI application in Mumbai revealed 100 funds for minorities have gone to only Muslims and not even a paisa to other minorities.
    I got removed 10 hawkers of Marathi ( even being in maharashtra), UP community from my place at Vakola but cant dare to even complain against a overnight noisy nuisance, badly smelling chinieses fast food joint. Why?? IMagine which comm I am and most of us are fearing?? The true solution is family planning,encouraging intercast/ interfaith marriages,giving education a priority , leaders not speaking against each other but doing and saying which will increase brotherhood, not attcking each other inspite of worst provocation but taking matter to Mohalla commitee which should solve the issue amicably,law and order machinary should not let voilence start and be rapid in action,police should use other methods like plastic bullets then firing at mob ( as then they are called Shahid and their family / friends further take law in to hand? etc etc..Alok

    Survey on Muslim Alienation released

    In a well attended seminar organized by The Sunday Indian (Urdu), a leading monthly magazine of Planman Media, in New Delhi on 10th December, the state home minister Lalit Makan pointed that security, identity and power sharing are the key issues related Muslims. He commented that if question is raised about these issues then Muslims could feel integrated in the country and acclaimed that, in spite of this erroneous tendency, Muslims are living with other communities in a peaceful manner. The seminar was organized on the theme 'Indian Muslims: Integrated or Alienated' coinciding with occasion of release of findings of a survey conducted by the media group through the country for assessing the state of alienation of the country. Other speakers of the seminar were noted journalist Zafar Agha, Arindam Chowdhary, MP Shahid Siddiqui, MP Mohammad Adib, former chairman of delhi minority Commission Kamal Farooqi, etc.

    The survey was conducted between November 2 to November 23, 2010 in Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Srinagar, Kolkata, Guwahati Lucknow, Patna, Bhopal, Chennai, Bangalore and covered people from all major universities, colleges and madrasas including DU, Jamia Millia Islamia, AMU, Osmania University, Darul Uloom Deoband, Nadwa and Jamia Al-Falah. The age of the respondents ranged between 18-40 years. The survey comes out with certain facts regarding the state of the Muslim community. It has been found that only 65.5 per cent Muslims feel safe in the country whereas as almost half members of the community (49.7%) observe that Muslims are being discriminated in walks of life. The majority of the respondents thinks that communal hatred against the community is on the rise.

    The Sunday Indian says, "In a comprehensive nationwide survey, TSI-CVoter maps a community in flux. Muslims constitute 13.4 per cent of the world's second most populous nation. This opinion poll is an attempt to grasp their hopes, aspirations and worries on a wide range of issues. This survey was conducted across three segments of Muslims - students of minority institutions, students of madrasas and the rest of the community."

    Further details of the survey may be referred to the Sunday India website:


    Thanks and Regards,
    Alok Tholiya (S.E.O) M:9324225699

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    Thursday, December 9, 2010

    On what basis have our planners decided this definition of "Poverty Line"? but media does not raise such issues

    The World Bank's definition of the poverty line**, for under developed countries, like India, is US$ 1/day/person or US $365 per year. As per this definition, more than 75% of all Indians are, probably, below the poverty line!
    As per the Government of India, poverty line for the urban areas is Rs. 296 per month and for rural areas Rs. 276 per month, i.e. people in India who earn less than Rs. 10 per day. As per GOI, this amount will buy food equivalent to 2200 calories per day, medically enough, to prevent death. At this level of earning, even in a poor country like India, survival on Rs. 10 per day is a nightmare! This actually translates to Rs. 3650 per year or US $ 75 per year.
    On what basis have our planners decided this definition of "Poverty Line"? Does it mean that the person will get enough food to stay alive? How and where is he or she supposed to cook it? What about the minimum needs in education, housing, health services, clothing,and other basic necessities? Are we supposed to live on pavements and sleep under trees from birth till death? YOU BE THE JUDGE!
    The minimum wages in India, vary from state to state and city to city, and average Rs. 1000 - 1250/month or Rs. 12,000 - 15,000/yr. Or US $ 250 - US $ 300/yr. India's per capita is US $ 440 per year. (China's is US $ 990).
    If India could provide Roads, Electricity, TV's and Telephones in every village, it would improve, education, health, family planning, agriculture, animal husbandry, GDP and reduce migration from villages to cities.

    Thanks and Regards,
    Alok Tholiya (S.E.O) M:9324225699

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    Sunday, December 5, 2010

    Fw: Every foolish ignorant crying against corruption...we r all one ( exception proovs the rule) ( if u r n exception pl. dont feel offended for general remarks..


    ----- Forwarded Message ----
    From: Dr. Leo Rebello <>
    To: Mr Alok Tholiya <>
    Sent: Sun, 5 December, 2010 1:49:17 PM
    Subject: Re: Every foolish ignorant crying against corruption...we r all one ( exception proovs the rule) ( if u r n exception pl. dont feel offended for general remarks..

    Your family may not read/listen to your Sunday sermon.
    But I read it.  However, from a person like you, people look for solutions.

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    Subject: Every foolish ignorant crying against corruption...we r all one ( exception proovs the rule) ( if u r n exception pl. dont feel offended for general remarks..

    30yrs back I had waged a war against a very corrupt and autocratic mumbai municipal officer. I succeeded in getting him transferred. ( I thought so). After few months I went to BMC HQ to meet Chief Vigilance officer for lodging a complaint against another erroring officer who was regularising unauthorised structures left right and center.
    And LO what I find? The king of corruption whom I had fought to get transferred was sitting as Chief vigilance officer.
    If u r a corrupt social worker then u get ticket as u can arrange stay in posh hotels for visiting Delhi VIP's of ur party, u can arrange for a girl and wine and can broker for a mafia and builder and hotelier. If u dont have these merits then all parties will deny u tickets.So u have to be a sophesticated pimp with good repport with media and police and underworld to  be a successful politicians.
    Since politicians need money to fight elections which r damn costly they start the wheel of corruption. But since files move thru IAS/IPS/IRS/Chief Judges they select and appoint only very corrupt. The more u r known for corruption and autocratic behaviour the more chances of rising. Now u will find in 60 yrs of independence we have achieved a system where only top corrupt rises thru throny ladders and honest are put in some non meaningful , powerless, administrative or adivasi  portfolios.Khairnar < Bhatia etc r few names who were punished and made mad in this system.
    Also since their work should go on unhindered they make opposition leader their partners in this loot.
    So ruling party, opposition party,bureacrats, media and judiciary are all in league in sucking ur blood, taking u to 15th century and inflicting on u rude and barberic ( no human/ compassionate touch I find anywhere) ( rather if there is any softness then it is towards law breakers/ criminals/ wards of whos who, etc).
    And incidentally BJP has too has mastered the art of ruling and they r ahead in corruption in Karnataka etc.. They it seems belive in lohe ko loha hi kaat sakta hai and therefore they too r ammassing funds by huge corruption.
    System is so  beautifully devised that only heartless/ consciuosless/ethicsless/characterless persons can rise who have infinite lust for  power , sex, money. Pl. note there r exceptions to this rule too and I am sorry for generalising as I am talking of majority.
    Their lust can never be satisfied. Given the choice I will worship Haji Mastan who atleast knew when enough is enough but present politicians, bureacrats do not know that. They wont even blink if some one was giving them a flat inexchange of widow of Kargil forget about just the land/ flat for Kargil widows. They r obsessed with power and money like manics and scizofrenics. ( Dont mind my spellings no time to correct and refer to dictionary .com).They r in the mad race where everyone wants to be something and no one wants to do something for country/ countryman. So they compromise with everything immoral,cheap,vulgar,illegal,unethical.
    So therefore our life is a hell, our files and cases are delayed, our development is stopped and reversed in most cases . now forget China/ Malaysia etc Mumbai is behind Delhi by 15 yrs thanks to BJP-shivsena combine in BMC  and Cong govt of Maharashtra.
    Any statician can prove how many proven corrupt have been given more important positions/ posts/ etc.. But our media is busy with Bacchan,Tendulkar,Munni, etc and keeps only tab of see todays Times ( Anil ambanis reply to his brother and Sanjay Datta giving Rols royce to Manyata etc etc. This is a caliber and priority of National no. 1 newspaper!!!!!????
    Gossip is all that we deserve??? I feel we have govt and media ( shameless and corrupts) that we deserve.
    And definitely thousands years old  Jainism scriptures say this is what going to happen in Kaliyug where devils will rule and nondesrving will rise and good and honest will suffer.
    Being disturbed by family and also knowing no one wants to read my mail as there is no photo of Kareena and Kapoor and so... so I stop here.

    Thanks and Regards,
    Alok Tholiya (S.E.O) M:9324225699

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    From: Dr. Leo Rebello <>
    Cc: "V. Moily, Union Law Minister" <>; Oscar Fernandes <>; "CM, Maharashtra" <>; Chief Secretary (Maharasthra) <>; Governor of Maharashtra <>; CVC <>; President of India <>
    Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 5:37:52 PM
    Subject: Is the IAS Bureaucracy destined to be guillotined in the near future? Replace it with Indian Public Welfare Service -- Dr. Leo Rebello comments

    Dear Mr. Prem Sabhlok, Ex IAS, who is now settled in Australia
    Read your email below.  First Finance Minister CD Deshmukh's comment re: ICS  remains the best.
    He had said: "They are neither Indians, nor civil, nor in service". Only the label has changed from
    ICS to IAS. 
    Those in the IAS, IPS, IFS, etc. are 95% corrupt or incompetent. By changing the label further
    from IAS to IPWS - Indian Public Welfare Service, as you suggest, nothing is going to change. 
    We have to change everything from top to bottom. 
    As I have said time and again, we can at least defeat a corrupt politician during the elections. 
    Like corrupt congress is now wiped out in Bihar. But one corrupt IAS/IPS or Judge rules over us
    for 30 to 35 years and barring a few small fries, show me an instance that they have been removed. 
    For example, IAS officers like Uttam Khobragade, whose name has surfaced once again in the
    Adarsh Society scam and who has several cases of corruption, incompetency, impropriety,
    stupidity against him should be sacked forthwith under article 311. But he continues brazenly
    by using his caste card and will be allowed to retire (he is due for retirement soon) with full pension
    by the corrupt coterie.
    We indeed need hire and fire policy.  More importantly we need an Executive President rather
    than a Harvard Educated chauffeur mentality man driving the car of development to doomsday
    by listening to the foreign amma doing backseat driving. We also need immediately a
    National Judicial Commission to hire, train and fire judges who too have become so
    corrupt and ruthless. The Collegium is a con. But people are afraid to talk against these legal
    Best Wishes
    Dr. Leo Rebello
    PS : Those in the CC are receiving this message as another reminder to act
    on Uttam Khobragade. My application for his ouster under article 311 of
    the Constitution of India is on record.

    Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:37 PM
    To: undisclosed recipients:
    Subject: Is the IAS Bureaucracy destined to be guillotined in the near future? Replace it with Indian Public Welfare Service


    Dear All,

    There is an urgent need for an all India debate on the subject of continuation of Colonial Model of IAS Bureaucracy.

    Views of some former Retired/Ex IAS officers (B.S.Raghavan, Shankar Sharan, Dr S Sanjeev and many others) are given below.

    A. Views of B.S Raghvan IAS (Retd Secy Govt of India )

    Appointments based on one time competitive examination with no periodical weeding out of the incompetent and corrupt induces smugness and militates against accountability.

    2. Healthy debate on some alternate model is necessary.

    3. Originally IAS was seen as replica of the ICS- incorruptible, independent, public spirited and result oriented. Unfortunately the system did not work as originally contemplated. All this has been eroded in the last 60 years.

    4. While the Armed Forces, Foreign Service and many other Central Services are indispensable and necessary for nation building, but without IAS country would not come to stand still.

    5. There are instances when non IAS persons when posted into top echelons usually earmarked for IAS, distinguished themselves by their higher caliber and competence.

    B. Views of Dr. S. Sanjeev PhD- former Secretary and Commissioner

    If IAS as a Service does not want to be ousted, it must establish as its role mission the delivery of world-class standard…. Otherwise IAS is destined to be guillotined in the not too distant future.

    2. Today IAS is a smashed up auto-riksha. They are busy in filling TA/DA forms, chasing after their pay slips, ensuring their pay scales remain higher than other services, chasing car/house loans and other bits and pieces of Personnel ministry, local treasury pursuing with Accountant General office lest they have trouble on retirement in getting right amount of Pension.

    3. Most of the IAS officers confirm their own poor ability of leadership by passing the buck to politicians. There are umpteen areas where political leaders do not play any role in their work and functioning….Dr. S. Sanjeev has mentioned a large number of such areas in his well known book Breaking Free of Nehru. Let's Unleash India available on Website <>

    4. Whole world public services are evolving and reforming. In IAS it is total stagnation in ideas

    We apply principle of competition and merit in assembling cricket team but do not apply in IAS bureaucracy.

    5. Till date in the last six decades IAS officers have not made any distinction between Independence , Freedom and Swaraj (governance to citizens). This lack of distinction has led to ineffective and weak local governments. Cities after cities are becoming urban nightmare under their non accountable and non transparent administration.

    Etc etc…

    Views of others

    Politics the noblest Endeavour of Gandhi, Nehru, Patel under the strong steel frame of ICS officers has been made the dirty mafia Politics by the rusted steel frame of IAS bureaucracy's selfish, non transparent and non accountable advice by ensuring that needle of blame always moves towards political leaders.

    The famous saying In Bihar mentioned by an IAS former Secy to Govt of India- Bihar cadre- "IAS officers are"Garam, Naram and Be-Sharam"After training in the IAS Training Academy they aregaram-highly enthusiastic, soon under political and senior officers pressures they becomeNaram-insensitive and players in shuttlecock game in regard to taking decisions and later they becomeBe-Sharam-freely resort to corrupt practices and encourage young IAS officers who are inclined to corrupt practices. All honest IAS officers are sidelined as OSD (officers on Special duties).

    Ground Realities

    Many Newspapers mentioned during recent Parliamentary Elections that in Mumbai many urban voters' names were eliminated in the Voters lists. A study was made for Gurgaon Parliamentary Constituency. For a population of over 20 lakhs, the voters names in the lists were about 8.5 lakhs i.e. about 40% of the population against all India 71% of the population.Again out of 8.5 lakhs urban voters were 2.36 lakhs and over 6 lakhs were rural voters.Thus Gurgaon a Millennium Urban City became a Rural Village as per Voters Lists. Clearly about 6 lakhs urban voters names (about one lakh having voters ID cards) were removed by/under orders of the District Electoral officer i.e. D.C Gurgaon (an IAS officer)

    CEC of India on residents' complaint removed the D.C and asked the new DC to prepare an up to date correct Voters list. New DC also could not do so. He was also removed on complaint from residents/political parties.

    In future Murder of Democracy is likely to happen if vested interests over take the democratic rights of the citizens. IAS officers need to become transparent, accountable, public spirited and result oriented to save the country being rated as a failed state.

    The worst activity of IAS bureaucracy was they have virtually destroyed Local Governance system established by British Govt. Under their rule we had some of the world best cities Bangalore, Delhi, Lahore, Lyallpur, Hyderabad and many others.. IAS bureaucracy by destroying local governments, have made Indian cities as urban nightmare.

    They devise all arguments so that Amendments numbers 73 and 74 to the Constitution of India are not implemented. They pass on this blame on political leaders and continue avoiding effective and strong local governments in India.


    Under IAS bureaucracy maladministration, India is now visualized as anearlyFailed State as per World Development Report 2009 based on the analysis of an International Agency on 12 indicators/parameters.........................


    Prem Sabhlok



    Some more views received from IAS officers (Retd)

    1. Millions of confused socialist bacteria swarming in the brain of Indian leaders and IAS bureaucrats has become the cause of national cancerous disease of corruption and poverty..

    2. ICS officers were never accountable to the people of India but to the British rulers. IAS officers are trying to perpetuate the same and have become non transparent and non accountable to people of India but only to their political bosses Thus feudal outdated colonial structure continues.

    3. IAS officers' interest is not aligned with public interest and they feed public on false promises.

    4. There is no internal competition and as such 100% reach the top level in bureaucracy. Now lately they have started grabbing Head of the Department posts of Central Services as well- it can lead rebellion within the different services.

    5. We are not making IAS as whipping boy but IAS as Service. It is now neither a Service nor Administration. Need to have accountable, specialized contractual officers on hire and fire basis at the Top inALLservices.

    6. Malady is far deeper than projected in terms of simple IAS bashing. British style colonial service neither civil nor service should be replaced by American style Civil Service. IAS is no longer the first/top choice of bright candidates. Revenue Services are becoming the top choice. All services should terminate at Joint Secy level or even Director Level. (Retd IAS Chief Secy Maharashtra)

    7. Sardar Vallabh Bahai Patel saw IAS as Steel Frame of Bureaucracy like replica of ICS- incorruptible, independent, public spirited and result oriented.

    Now after 60 years all this has been eroded and the perception is self serving, insensitive and non accountable.. (Retd IAS Secy to Government of India )

    8. If IAS as service is scrapped country would not come to stand still..(Ex Dy. Army Chief)

    I have received umpteen more views BUT not a single in support of continuation of IAS as Public Welfare Service. We do not need to abolish this service but to make it useful as a Public Welfare Service and not as Feudal Adminstrative Service.

    The country is anxiously waiting for some remarks in favour of IAS as Public service even from retired/serving IAS officers

    Prem Sabhlok