Sunday, December 5, 2010

Fw: Every foolish ignorant crying against corruption...we r all one ( exception proovs the rule) ( if u r n exception pl. dont feel offended for general remarks..


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Subject: Re: Every foolish ignorant crying against corruption...we r all one ( exception proovs the rule) ( if u r n exception pl. dont feel offended for general remarks..

Your family may not read/listen to your Sunday sermon.
But I read it.  However, from a person like you, people look for solutions.

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Subject: Every foolish ignorant crying against corruption...we r all one ( exception proovs the rule) ( if u r n exception pl. dont feel offended for general remarks..

30yrs back I had waged a war against a very corrupt and autocratic mumbai municipal officer. I succeeded in getting him transferred. ( I thought so). After few months I went to BMC HQ to meet Chief Vigilance officer for lodging a complaint against another erroring officer who was regularising unauthorised structures left right and center.
And LO what I find? The king of corruption whom I had fought to get transferred was sitting as Chief vigilance officer.
If u r a corrupt social worker then u get ticket as u can arrange stay in posh hotels for visiting Delhi VIP's of ur party, u can arrange for a girl and wine and can broker for a mafia and builder and hotelier. If u dont have these merits then all parties will deny u tickets.So u have to be a sophesticated pimp with good repport with media and police and underworld to  be a successful politicians.
Since politicians need money to fight elections which r damn costly they start the wheel of corruption. But since files move thru IAS/IPS/IRS/Chief Judges they select and appoint only very corrupt. The more u r known for corruption and autocratic behaviour the more chances of rising. Now u will find in 60 yrs of independence we have achieved a system where only top corrupt rises thru throny ladders and honest are put in some non meaningful , powerless, administrative or adivasi  portfolios.Khairnar < Bhatia etc r few names who were punished and made mad in this system.
Also since their work should go on unhindered they make opposition leader their partners in this loot.
So ruling party, opposition party,bureacrats, media and judiciary are all in league in sucking ur blood, taking u to 15th century and inflicting on u rude and barberic ( no human/ compassionate touch I find anywhere) ( rather if there is any softness then it is towards law breakers/ criminals/ wards of whos who, etc).
And incidentally BJP has too has mastered the art of ruling and they r ahead in corruption in Karnataka etc.. They it seems belive in lohe ko loha hi kaat sakta hai and therefore they too r ammassing funds by huge corruption.
System is so  beautifully devised that only heartless/ consciuosless/ethicsless/characterless persons can rise who have infinite lust for  power , sex, money. Pl. note there r exceptions to this rule too and I am sorry for generalising as I am talking of majority.
Their lust can never be satisfied. Given the choice I will worship Haji Mastan who atleast knew when enough is enough but present politicians, bureacrats do not know that. They wont even blink if some one was giving them a flat inexchange of widow of Kargil forget about just the land/ flat for Kargil widows. They r obsessed with power and money like manics and scizofrenics. ( Dont mind my spellings no time to correct and refer to dictionary .com).They r in the mad race where everyone wants to be something and no one wants to do something for country/ countryman. So they compromise with everything immoral,cheap,vulgar,illegal,unethical.
So therefore our life is a hell, our files and cases are delayed, our development is stopped and reversed in most cases . now forget China/ Malaysia etc Mumbai is behind Delhi by 15 yrs thanks to BJP-shivsena combine in BMC  and Cong govt of Maharashtra.
Any statician can prove how many proven corrupt have been given more important positions/ posts/ etc.. But our media is busy with Bacchan,Tendulkar,Munni, etc and keeps only tab of see todays Times ( Anil ambanis reply to his brother and Sanjay Datta giving Rols royce to Manyata etc etc. This is a caliber and priority of National no. 1 newspaper!!!!!????
Gossip is all that we deserve??? I feel we have govt and media ( shameless and corrupts) that we deserve.
And definitely thousands years old  Jainism scriptures say this is what going to happen in Kaliyug where devils will rule and nondesrving will rise and good and honest will suffer.
Being disturbed by family and also knowing no one wants to read my mail as there is no photo of Kareena and Kapoor and so... so I stop here.

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From: Dr. Leo Rebello <>
Cc: "V. Moily, Union Law Minister" <>; Oscar Fernandes <>; "CM, Maharashtra" <>; Chief Secretary (Maharasthra) <>; Governor of Maharashtra <>; CVC <>; President of India <>
Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 5:37:52 PM
Subject: Is the IAS Bureaucracy destined to be guillotined in the near future? Replace it with Indian Public Welfare Service -- Dr. Leo Rebello comments

Dear Mr. Prem Sabhlok, Ex IAS, who is now settled in Australia
Read your email below.  First Finance Minister CD Deshmukh's comment re: ICS  remains the best.
He had said: "They are neither Indians, nor civil, nor in service". Only the label has changed from
ICS to IAS. 
Those in the IAS, IPS, IFS, etc. are 95% corrupt or incompetent. By changing the label further
from IAS to IPWS - Indian Public Welfare Service, as you suggest, nothing is going to change. 
We have to change everything from top to bottom. 
As I have said time and again, we can at least defeat a corrupt politician during the elections. 
Like corrupt congress is now wiped out in Bihar. But one corrupt IAS/IPS or Judge rules over us
for 30 to 35 years and barring a few small fries, show me an instance that they have been removed. 
For example, IAS officers like Uttam Khobragade, whose name has surfaced once again in the
Adarsh Society scam and who has several cases of corruption, incompetency, impropriety,
stupidity against him should be sacked forthwith under article 311. But he continues brazenly
by using his caste card and will be allowed to retire (he is due for retirement soon) with full pension
by the corrupt coterie.
We indeed need hire and fire policy.  More importantly we need an Executive President rather
than a Harvard Educated chauffeur mentality man driving the car of development to doomsday
by listening to the foreign amma doing backseat driving. We also need immediately a
National Judicial Commission to hire, train and fire judges who too have become so
corrupt and ruthless. The Collegium is a con. But people are afraid to talk against these legal
Best Wishes
Dr. Leo Rebello
PS : Those in the CC are receiving this message as another reminder to act
on Uttam Khobragade. My application for his ouster under article 311 of
the Constitution of India is on record.

Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:37 PM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Is the IAS Bureaucracy destined to be guillotined in the near future? Replace it with Indian Public Welfare Service


Dear All,

There is an urgent need for an all India debate on the subject of continuation of Colonial Model of IAS Bureaucracy.

Views of some former Retired/Ex IAS officers (B.S.Raghavan, Shankar Sharan, Dr S Sanjeev and many others) are given below.

A. Views of B.S Raghvan IAS (Retd Secy Govt of India )

Appointments based on one time competitive examination with no periodical weeding out of the incompetent and corrupt induces smugness and militates against accountability.

2. Healthy debate on some alternate model is necessary.

3. Originally IAS was seen as replica of the ICS- incorruptible, independent, public spirited and result oriented. Unfortunately the system did not work as originally contemplated. All this has been eroded in the last 60 years.

4. While the Armed Forces, Foreign Service and many other Central Services are indispensable and necessary for nation building, but without IAS country would not come to stand still.

5. There are instances when non IAS persons when posted into top echelons usually earmarked for IAS, distinguished themselves by their higher caliber and competence.

B. Views of Dr. S. Sanjeev PhD- former Secretary and Commissioner

If IAS as a Service does not want to be ousted, it must establish as its role mission the delivery of world-class standard…. Otherwise IAS is destined to be guillotined in the not too distant future.

2. Today IAS is a smashed up auto-riksha. They are busy in filling TA/DA forms, chasing after their pay slips, ensuring their pay scales remain higher than other services, chasing car/house loans and other bits and pieces of Personnel ministry, local treasury pursuing with Accountant General office lest they have trouble on retirement in getting right amount of Pension.

3. Most of the IAS officers confirm their own poor ability of leadership by passing the buck to politicians. There are umpteen areas where political leaders do not play any role in their work and functioning….Dr. S. Sanjeev has mentioned a large number of such areas in his well known book Breaking Free of Nehru. Let's Unleash India available on Website <>

4. Whole world public services are evolving and reforming. In IAS it is total stagnation in ideas

We apply principle of competition and merit in assembling cricket team but do not apply in IAS bureaucracy.

5. Till date in the last six decades IAS officers have not made any distinction between Independence , Freedom and Swaraj (governance to citizens). This lack of distinction has led to ineffective and weak local governments. Cities after cities are becoming urban nightmare under their non accountable and non transparent administration.

Etc etc…

Views of others

Politics the noblest Endeavour of Gandhi, Nehru, Patel under the strong steel frame of ICS officers has been made the dirty mafia Politics by the rusted steel frame of IAS bureaucracy's selfish, non transparent and non accountable advice by ensuring that needle of blame always moves towards political leaders.

The famous saying In Bihar mentioned by an IAS former Secy to Govt of India- Bihar cadre- "IAS officers are"Garam, Naram and Be-Sharam"After training in the IAS Training Academy they aregaram-highly enthusiastic, soon under political and senior officers pressures they becomeNaram-insensitive and players in shuttlecock game in regard to taking decisions and later they becomeBe-Sharam-freely resort to corrupt practices and encourage young IAS officers who are inclined to corrupt practices. All honest IAS officers are sidelined as OSD (officers on Special duties).

Ground Realities

Many Newspapers mentioned during recent Parliamentary Elections that in Mumbai many urban voters' names were eliminated in the Voters lists. A study was made for Gurgaon Parliamentary Constituency. For a population of over 20 lakhs, the voters names in the lists were about 8.5 lakhs i.e. about 40% of the population against all India 71% of the population.Again out of 8.5 lakhs urban voters were 2.36 lakhs and over 6 lakhs were rural voters.Thus Gurgaon a Millennium Urban City became a Rural Village as per Voters Lists. Clearly about 6 lakhs urban voters names (about one lakh having voters ID cards) were removed by/under orders of the District Electoral officer i.e. D.C Gurgaon (an IAS officer)

CEC of India on residents' complaint removed the D.C and asked the new DC to prepare an up to date correct Voters list. New DC also could not do so. He was also removed on complaint from residents/political parties.

In future Murder of Democracy is likely to happen if vested interests over take the democratic rights of the citizens. IAS officers need to become transparent, accountable, public spirited and result oriented to save the country being rated as a failed state.

The worst activity of IAS bureaucracy was they have virtually destroyed Local Governance system established by British Govt. Under their rule we had some of the world best cities Bangalore, Delhi, Lahore, Lyallpur, Hyderabad and many others.. IAS bureaucracy by destroying local governments, have made Indian cities as urban nightmare.

They devise all arguments so that Amendments numbers 73 and 74 to the Constitution of India are not implemented. They pass on this blame on political leaders and continue avoiding effective and strong local governments in India.


Under IAS bureaucracy maladministration, India is now visualized as anearlyFailed State as per World Development Report 2009 based on the analysis of an International Agency on 12 indicators/parameters.........................


Prem Sabhlok



Some more views received from IAS officers (Retd)

1. Millions of confused socialist bacteria swarming in the brain of Indian leaders and IAS bureaucrats has become the cause of national cancerous disease of corruption and poverty..

2. ICS officers were never accountable to the people of India but to the British rulers. IAS officers are trying to perpetuate the same and have become non transparent and non accountable to people of India but only to their political bosses Thus feudal outdated colonial structure continues.

3. IAS officers' interest is not aligned with public interest and they feed public on false promises.

4. There is no internal competition and as such 100% reach the top level in bureaucracy. Now lately they have started grabbing Head of the Department posts of Central Services as well- it can lead rebellion within the different services.

5. We are not making IAS as whipping boy but IAS as Service. It is now neither a Service nor Administration. Need to have accountable, specialized contractual officers on hire and fire basis at the Top inALLservices.

6. Malady is far deeper than projected in terms of simple IAS bashing. British style colonial service neither civil nor service should be replaced by American style Civil Service. IAS is no longer the first/top choice of bright candidates. Revenue Services are becoming the top choice. All services should terminate at Joint Secy level or even Director Level. (Retd IAS Chief Secy Maharashtra)

7. Sardar Vallabh Bahai Patel saw IAS as Steel Frame of Bureaucracy like replica of ICS- incorruptible, independent, public spirited and result oriented.

Now after 60 years all this has been eroded and the perception is self serving, insensitive and non accountable.. (Retd IAS Secy to Government of India )

8. If IAS as service is scrapped country would not come to stand still..(Ex Dy. Army Chief)

I have received umpteen more views BUT not a single in support of continuation of IAS as Public Welfare Service. We do not need to abolish this service but to make it useful as a Public Welfare Service and not as Feudal Adminstrative Service.

The country is anxiously waiting for some remarks in favour of IAS as Public service even from retired/serving IAS officers

Prem Sabhlok

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